Salt Lake City, UT – There are those that claim that there is "nothing" to be found on the 1.7 million acres of the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument. But as writer Brooke Williams explains, "nothing is not absence, but presence." In his new book, Williams and photographer Chris Noble tour the chasms and gorges, the mesas and the buttes that harbor flora, fauna and a rich history. Williams joins Doug to talk about "Escalante: The Best Kind of Nothing."
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